Thread:Dragonboy6491/@comment-25389622-20140907210809/@comment-25389622-20141108025847

I wouldn't say that you could hate a film you already love. Perhaps you may grow tired of it, yes. The thing is you don't need to watch a film loads and loads to love it. The love comes in your mind where you think over all the concepts and themes present. Obviously still watch it, to reinforce the love, but do it in a way that you won't get sick of it, that's all I can say. True, it wasn't  really  romantic, but then it wasn't supposed to be; it was more about love of a form we are not used to seeing in film these days, or at any point really. You don't see a hard-core Expendables-type movie and expect to see a 'love-thy-neighbour' theme projected. That's not what the film is trying to say, so then it comes down to personal taste and what appeals to an individual, with them choosing what themes they like. And if that theme is not present or not presented in a way that they don’t enjoy, then it's fair enough if they don't like it. It's the same with music; we all enjoy different genres, and don't listen to certain types because they don't appeal to our tastes. There's a showing of the sing-along at the Royal Albert Hall on the 17th; I've mentioned it before. I thought about going, but I shan't. I don't really need to. We should spice up the home page to celebrate the birthday though :-) 

I'll have a look at User Boxes at some point. I think we're clear on the character development thing now :-) I never realised how 'out-of-universe' the current pages are/were; all very mixed up at the moment. 

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence". Live by that and you'll pick out all the pointless things people say and you'll save yourself a lot of time. One should only be entitled to an opinion on something if they can quantify it, else why have the opinion? Slightly off topic, but we had a talk on Teenage Cancer today, and when the guy asked who smokes, like one person put their hand up. I know my friend smokes - he's very opinionated, but wouldn’t stand by his views on that one. I just thought, why do something if you don't have the confidence to back it up. He obviously knows that it's really bad for him, especially seeing as cigarettes contain cyanide and tar. I may sound like a hypocrite, because if someone said, "put your hand up if you like Frozen", I wouldn't necessarily (depends on when and why), but then it's kind of different, what with the difference between a 'social-norm' and a family film (although saying that Frozen is still pretty huge, becoming part of the norm, although in a different way. It's just you don't see it as much as someone smoking...). Also there's the social baggage and scrutiny. Not sure who would ask that anyway :-) I was also going to say that I read a rather positive article about Frozen. I could link it if you like, although I'm cautious not to just link everything I find. The only thing that annoyed me was that twice the author described Anna and Elsa as something like, "big-eyed, wasp-waisted..." He didn't build on it, so I'll let it slide I think. We've discussed it before anyway. It was funny as well because the author quoted reviews of the film just after release. They said stuff about not-so-memorable characters and forgettable songs. It's funny how wrong people can be. That's why I take what critics say with a pinch of salt. 

Hans Christian Andersen seems quite tame in that regard. Yes, the logistics of death are grimmer than death itself. Death is the shutting-down of your body. It's what causes it that is what can be messed up. That's what made me cringe with Hans. Let's face it, if he had hit Elsa, one blow wouldn't be enough. He'd have to commit, which is what I think he would have done, and what makes him all the more psychopathic... A villain, truly. 

I'm not sure if I'll ever be in a place to ask such questions, but if I am, I'll let you know. The whole 'darkness' thing in this manner is grimly fascinating. I still don't endorse it, especially when it's Frozen, but I'm open to hear a justification. There's no point even trying to comprehend "rule 34". There's nothing to work with to try and quantify it. My altercation, a while back now, with someone ended up with them just not replying to me; maybe he just got bored, although I like to think I presented the stronger argument and he saw the error of his ways ;-) Not likely on the internet though. It's all messed up. Why is it that we share a medium as great as the internet with these people? Maybe the internet is not so great after all… <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">Interesting what you say. Don't worry about tangents; if they open up discussion like this, then great! It is true that I view the universe rather scientifically, preferring to base my base my beliefs around empirical, objective, observable evidence. I need that idea of solidarity if I'm going to back something. With regards to Deism, I see it as much more appealing than theism, but I don't believe either. As much as I hate the word Atheist, I guess that's what one might call me. I do not believe in any form of a physical thinking 'God'. I only consider the use of the word 'God' when applied to the personification of the universe, and nature as a whole. That I suppose is in line with the whole idea that God id indifferent to our demands, wants, and needs. I'm not going to say, 'oh, there's no evidence for God, so I dismiss the idea'. There is no evidence for the Gods that humanity has dreamt up. You don't even need evidence to dismiss the Christian God. If the Bible is the definitive views and words of God, and are his spoken word, then we can base an argument off of that. And what do we see? That the Bible, this version of everything is wrong, morally if anything else. And for that reason alone, it should have no place in our society. They do find ways around that, even amidst all of the contradiction. You need evidence to substantiate a claim, although, like I said, I am open to the idea of 'God' in the form of a personified universe. Obviously I respect what you have to say, and I'm never going to say you’re wrong, because the idea of Deism is not far-fetched by any means. Plus who am I to say, anyway? We don't know what happened to instigate this; we do to a degree, but not one where we say, 'There was definitely no such creator that you speak of'. I see spirituality less of a super-natural thing, and more of a mental, perception of the mind thing. I do see life almost as an entity - nature as an entity, or a whole, and we are all part of it. That's why I'm against killing anything; I'm vegetarian as well. We are all on the same journey, all part of the same extremely complex web of life. It may be slightly arbitrary what that journey is. Survival, if anything. The way I see it, humans should fulfil the role of curator, and not abuse that role. We have alternatives now from meat, so I would rather use them. I have no problem with people who eat meat, I just see not eating it as the best way to solve big problems coming humanity's way in the not-so-distant future. So, yeah, that's about as far as my spirituality goes. Don't think that I'm completely objective though; Frozen has taught me to embrace subjectivity that little bit more, and to feel and experience, not just observe. Although when it comes to issues like our future and place in this universe, we cannot afford to compromise for something over objectivity. <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">Oh yes, it is nicer to individualize, although I'm quite a cynic when it comes to individualizing everyone. What makes someone an individual is how they think and behave, and how they are perceived by others for that way of thinking and behaving. To truly perceive that, you can't perceive these traits in everyone. Perception, perception, perception... Sorry, I thought that I'd say it a couple more times :D <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">I like to look on news for Frozen; there is a huge boom coming... Just give it time. I read that they are even making Frozen plasters... That's corporate gain for you... 'Squeeze it dry' should be the motto of capitalism. We got something out of The Story of Frozen. It was wonderful, but there could have been so much more. I don’t care either. I quite like the thought of being a Granddad and seeing my grandchildren’s' faces when I when I get excited over Frozen :-) <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">I don't enjoy social networking; I barely go on it. Like you say: phone and e-mail is all one needs. Ha, do you have the deluxe edition of the Soundtrack? The instrumentals are great. Just play the lyrics in your head and then be proud when they match up :-) I especially like the bit where Elsa says, "I'm free!", and then the way the music 'bursts'. Love it :-) Don't worry if it's a bother getting New Scientist and you're just doing it for me. I wouldn't want to push you if you don't really want to do it. It's just a brilliant magazine, I find :-) <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">I will buy them on iTunes most likely. Just need to be careful how I do it. I'm busted if someone finds out, truly busted - caught with my hand in the cookie jar :-) I love the art-work, though. I have The Art of Frozen, and my excuse for that was that 'I’m interested in the art'. That may work for the books. I have to say that some are very basic; one had the line, "Anna enters FIRST, Kristoff enters LAST" (into the palace), or something. 'First' and 'last' were capitalized like that as well. Truly aimed at the young children. You do appreciate things the older you get, I even did it with 101 Dalmatians :D Hmm, I don't think that Tolkien could have just let World War I go like that, although maybe if he heard the song :-)  <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">I don't know how else to put the point across about looks. If we're talking looks, I'm in love with Elsa's hair more than anything :D It's made me annoyed because you would never see such a wonder in our lives. The fact she has four times as much hair as the average person puts a sad stop to that. Plus I think the way the bangs are swept back is hard to maintain. Still great though - makes her all the more unique :-) Sorry, got distracted. Yes, you're right about the other characters. It's about projecting the character's traits through looks more than anything. I mean, look at the Duke. His stature is so in line with his personality. Authenticity plays a role, but then that's not a bad thing; Sven's so adorable. When he runs, you can see his character projected through that. And even without that, why would you would choose ‘ugly’ characters over ‘attractive’ ones.  <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">Yeah, popular stereotype. Although saying that, I'm not a jerk, and I'm not exactly a magnet for ladies like some of the less ‘appealing’ boys in my year. I don’t have time for all that anyway. Elsanna? That's not, like, you know... More than just sisters is it? Because that's way too far. I'll let you get back to me on that one. <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">Here's the link: http://31.media.tumblr.com/8e31eedf4f1916b15b123f5d153b3dc1/tumblr_myx5fkIbxg1sd311bo1_1280.jpg <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">Here's some ones similar to it: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/47/19/12/47191253bcd1662bd11b78212d2195f0.jpg <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">A bit speculative, but far better than most of the stuff out there... <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(217,217,217);border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">I'll talk about it later, but I heard something about not liking a film as much if you see the trailer first. I'll come back to that. Not sure if you've heard the story. <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">