Thread:Dragonboy6491/@comment-25389622-20140907210809/@comment-24199126-20141115152300

Yes, the focus should be on rewriting the pages. Hopefully by the time the second anniversary comes around, all the articles will be in shape :). We could have a forum for favorite moments in the film ... I certainly have years to discuss that xD

I'll be glad to lend a hand with the user boxes. They only take a few seconds to whip up, so it's no problem :)

O.o Yeah I was wondering about the indenting ... whatever xD

All right, I'll do it ... gonna become a viral sensation as "crazed Frozen fanboy". And yeah, I forget sometimes that this is technically a public conversation and literally anyone can butt in xD. But I doubt anyone's keeping up with 100+ messages. Sorry to hear about your grandpa. My paternal grandfather didn't smoke, but he died of cancer because he clung to archaic ways and never went to see a doctor. So when it metastasized, it was already too late. My father on the other hand ... he smoked, quite for about a decade, then went back to it for stupid reasons, and he's too stubborn to quit again <.<

I can see why people say Elsa is "emo", and there's nothing necessarily wrong with the term. There's a negative connotation with emo that makes you immediately picture goth-type people, but at its core, it just means emotional, and we can definitely agree Elsa is influenced strongly by her emotions. That being said, she's definitely not part of the emo subculture that wears chains.

Big Hero 6 does look good. It'll definitely still be out in theaters by the time my break rolls around so I'll see it then. And yes, it is incredibly stupid when people judge something purely by ratings. I understand I have a bit of bias myself, but I'd like to think I have reasonable arguments for my love of the film. I've seen many people go from loving the film to disliking it the instant it hit the top charts ... like really? You're too "hipster" to like something that everyone else likes? I get that some popular things are just plain stupid, but when a film essentially becomes a cultural phenomenon, it's not wrong to be part of a majority and like it, especially if you changed views simply because it suddenly became popular. I'll never understand people.

It's all speculation in the end so yeah, it's not worth pursuing. And yeah, it is interesting thinking of Hans from a criminal pathologist's standpoint because it gives a greater understanding of his motives. He really is a great villain because, as I've said, he's realistic. He's the seemingly normal guy that no one suspects who is a violent killer inside. When we look at pictures of serial killers, the vast majority of them do seem almost normal. Very few "bad" people have the stereotypical villain attributes that Disney loves to use to highlight "hey, this guy is EVIL" (usually facial hair, e.g. Jafar, Clayton, Facilier). It also makes you feel sympathetic towards Hans because you realize his past had a deep effect on him ... morality is rarely, if ever, simply black and white. Again, to me, one of the film's greatest strengths was its realism within fantasy elements. If you fail to take the time to know someone, you're going to pay the price.

There can no light without darkness, simple as that. I'm afraid that for as long as good things can come from the Internet, there will always be something bad as well. That being said, so long as the positive aspects overshadow the negative, I can accept that the balance.

I won't go into the logistics of it, but if I've learned anything in my environmental ethics class, it's that meat-eating is quite detrimental to nature. I don't know if you've thought about it from this perspective, but Frozen is somewhat of an environmental film. What is global cooling but just another manifestation of climate change? What is Elsa but a force of nature (winter)? When the general populace fails to properly understand nature, it lashes out with undesirable consequences. It's much more subtle than the family theme in the film, but it's still there. But as I've said, meat is hard to give up. However, it's one thing to be mass slaughtering these animals as if they were bred to die and another to kill an animal and respect it for what it has to offer. I think the Native Americans have a good way of looking at carnivory; they kill the animal but they revere the animal for what it stood for. Unfortunately, I don't think I can take up hunting animals anytime soon. I've never heard of Quorn. Is it like the stuff they use in veggie burgers to simulate meat?

It'd be great to have a commentary! People should totally make a petition for it. But unfortunately, like I've said, behind-the-scenes just aren't what they used to be :(. If it's a question about money, they can always do a Kickstarter; people do love seeing the creative process behind a film. I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed for next couple of years.

I wasn't even aware of the comet until you told me. I felt terrible when I did read up on the momentous news and realized I was in the dark about it. And kudos to that; I don't care what field I enter, Frozen will be in the core of my heart as well.

I haven't gotten down to fully reading it, but I have skimmed it for any tidbits I could add to the character articles. Most of it would be trivia stuff but there was a bit on Kristoff that I was able to add to the in-universe section of the article. I will read it in more detail though because the Art of Frozen page could use expansion.

To my knowledge, both Tangled and Frozen have elements of traditional hand-drawn animation integrated into the computer-generated imagery so I wouldn't be surprised if Elsa and Anna look cartoony outside the film either. I guess it's just to accommodate the other princesses in the franchise. No the Duke wasn't trying to kill Elsa. It was worse. Spoilers incoming. So I've told you I dislike the plot of OUAT and here's why. Elsa has an aunt, Ingrid, who also possesses snow powers and like Elsa, the aunt had trouble controlling her powers. The aunt had two sisters, Gerda (Elsa's mom) and Helga. Ingrid killed Helga in the same manner in which Elsa struck Anna because she was worried the Duke would expose her powers and lashed out at him but Helga took the hit. I dislike the plot because for one thing, it makes Elsa's powers less unique by giving it a genetic basis. And two, from what I can see, they are just taking Frozen's plot, bringing it into the past by applying it to Ingrid, and then making it go horribly wrong. There's quite a few other problems, but I won't go into them. Whatever, more Frozen is nice on a Sunday.

Call me weird, but I don't think it's too depraved; I've recently acquired some suggestions for fan fics; the Elsanna ones often take place in alternate universes and are character studies more than anything else. It's not really incest when all you take are the character names and personalities and apply it to a different time and place. And the ones that do turn it into incest, I don't find them all that bad either. In fact, I do find it strange how the same people who tolerate homosexuality will often react strongly to incest, especially since it used to be very commonplace to marry cousins. I don't mean to shoot down such views, but at the core, there really isn't much of a difference and if there is, I'd like to know what it is. The main argument against incest is that the children have increased susceptibility to genetic disease. The thing is, that argument is invalid if you're going to support homosexuals because they can't have children at all and thus, contribute nothing to the gene pool. But how do they get around it? Raising an adopted child. So if the argument against incest is due to genetic contributions, it has little merit because an incestuous couple can do the same thing as a gay couple and adopt a child. I may be a little too open-minded about this, but that's just how I see it.

Certainly would beat adding hats to the characters; that's far too simple. It's nice that the holiday season is just around the corner :)