Thread:Wolf 91/@comment-24199126-20141208134838/@comment-25389622-20150105142121

The whole thing about just three of his brothers ignoring him and not the others is also wrong. It would be wrong of me to say that all of them treated him in such a way, but it is also wrong for you to say that they didn't, and that the other nine got on with him. We simply don't have enough evidence to go by to make such a statement. You can say that the overall mood towards Hans was negative; the three brothers ignoring him like that was just the worst example that Hans could give. There would be other degrees of severity towards neglecting Hans, but not all as severe as this.

We have to be as objective as possible when formulating what goes on a page. You shouldn't have twisted the words of Jennifer Lee regarding homosexuality like that. That was applying to issues like whether or not Oaken was gay, and whether or not Elsa's powers were a symbolism of homosexuality. I would persoanlly not go that far; in the context of the story, she has powers, and it has nothing to do with homosexuality in the context of the story. Things like with Oaken are a nod to the more liberal way Disney is now going. If you want to generalise that and apply it to another situation that you feel is relevant in your life, then go ahead. That's when the personal connection with what a character means to you comes in. But don't out that on the Wiki.

It can't be more clear what Dragonboy is saying. What I have just has nothing to do with Hans' situation. When Jennifer Lee - someone who directed and wrote the film - steps forward with something like this, saying that Hans was raised without love, we accept this as a fact, and add it up. You can't put the word "might" in the article so we cater for "both sides". It'd be like saying, "evloution did happen, but because some people disagree, we have to say that it may have not, and write that in the science texts and encyclopedias". It boils down to the fact that we have evidence that says Hans was raised without love, and so unless that statement is retracted by Jennifer Lee or a higher source contradicts it, then there it shall stay.

Also, don't say that "you and other fans think...", and not give examples of "other fans".