Thread:Dragonboy6491/@comment-25389622-20140907210809/@comment-25389622-20141103005918

Load of tripe. Sorry to burden that upon you, it just got me a bit mad. Obviously I'm not going to go into everything wrong with it - I haven't got years. I'm not going to reopen it and check, but he said something like how Anna's revival was not as good as Let It Go because of a lack of music. People seriously miss out the point of the soundtrack and its usage as a tool to drive emotion. That moment is so beautiful. Let It Go is brilliant, but in a different way to that scene. Whatever, let's just ignore it. We should look into how to develop the song pages and integrate their meaning, definitely. I've been a bit emotionally all over the place today. I watched Frozen again last night. I probably won't watch it for a while now, but man, I just can't get enough. Bring on Frozen Fever. I got some homework done today despite my slump, although seeing as when I was listening to my songs on shuffle (270 of them) and out of the first 9, 4 of them were from Frozen, it was like something didn't want me to work xD Plus one of them was Epilogue and I was like, 'I'm done'. I guess that I don’t feel great either because I'm also going back to school tomorrow, although I do feel better for doing some work. I've been building up a little list on my notes on my phone with things to discuss with you. I think what I'll do is discuss our previous message, and then add one on at the end.

I also wanted to say that the poll on the homepage is accurate, but I think as with any poll, there are implications as to the way people approach it. Eh, but then I suppose that's what statistics are based on. There's no reason to question it. Elsa is really relatable, but I think that I was just surprised at how many votes she had compared to the other characters. Maybe there could be something for people to post their reasoning. 

Doors as a theme are very prominent throughout the film. I mean, just look at the role the gates play. Another theme is that idea of 'conceal, don't feel', and how that is reiterated in two songs (maybe three if you count Do You Want to Build a Snowman?) and then later on in the film. It's clever in how it relates to that idea of not being able to conceal who you are - you need your to be happy with who you are, and that mantra just isn't a good way to live by, as you will never be liberated. It's sad that Elsa turns back to it even after she feels free, but then she just feels too much for Anna to not be concerned. 

It is undeniable the level of success this film has achieved. This is the thing though, while people can sit there and hate until they are blue in the face, it doesn’t change anything. The film, I am more than sure, will still be well known and enjoyed in many years to come. And, like you say, even the haters’ grandchildren will fall in love with it :-) I don’t know what to do with people and their unfounded views, but in this case we can afford to ignore them until they tire themselves out and give up. 

  The image wasn't Photoshopped, it was in fact quite a well-drawn cartoon strip. It was wrong in the same way a brilliant artist uses his talent to commit fraud and replicate another piece of work - they have a talent, but then they use it for this kind of thing. I'm not going to link it; I don't want to go looking for it again. I just stumble across this kind of thing and then regret it immediately afterwards. You could find it pretty easily I'm sure, but I guess you want to see it as much as I do. I wouldn't say that this kind of thing is born out of the idea of originally grisly fairy tales. Besides, I don't even think that the original  Snow Queen was that bad. I haven't encountered the original  Cinderella. What we have here is someone who takes something from the film in its own right, and adds a bit of a grim twist to it. It just doesn't sit right with me. They're within their right to do it, but I'm not endorsing it. I don't see the point in making up alternate versions to such a brilliant piece of work, especially in this way where they add nothing. The people who do it I suppose aren’t looking to abuse the film. I don’t think they give it as much thought as I do. Maybe they just do it to explore something arty, for lack of a better word. They probably don't connect with it in the same way we do. Even if I was seriously offended and angered, what would I do? I’m not, because there’s no point in being offended. It bothers me slightly, I know it shouldn't. It doesn’t infringe upon the film in any way, and if they want to do it, fine. I have to say I found a kind of grim fascination in seeing this version of Elsa, but again, I don’t condone it, or want to see it at all. All one can do if it doesn’t sit right with them is just not associate themselves with it. That’s all there is to do, so long as it doesn’t have a negative effect on anyone. I wouldn’t say it comes under the same category as what we’ve previously said on people and their weird fantasies; I treat that differently because of the principle behind it. To take something like Disney and turn it into something like that is abhorrent, and whether it affects me as an individual negatively or not, I’d say that if you find yourself not fazed by such things then I question your morals. I’ve encountered these people at school, the 4chan types, and their thinking is pretty messed up, seriously, it is. Let’s just hope that they don’t end up running the country xD I never saw that link with  Star Wars<span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;line-height:16.5pt;">. That's brilliant, truly. I understand that it is in our nature to have such thoughts and that kind of curiosity, but I can’t condone it. I may have a grim fascination with death, although I haven’t quantified what that implies. Wow, I feel like if I carry on I’m going to write a rule book of the dos and don’ts of life and the internet; that’ll work. This is another one of those issues I struggle to formulate in my head. See if you can pick out anything from that mess of words and try to help me make sense of it…

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">  <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;line-height:16.5pt;">That quote is so true. When a death toll is that high, you cannot comprehend it. Even the number 1 million is hard to process. How long is a million seconds? You can't figure it out with common sense. 100 seconds, yes, 1,000 perhaps; you might even get away with having a general idea of 10,000, but a million? It’s no wonder we prefer not to think about something when the casualty rate is that high. <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;line-height:16.5pt;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">Your job sounds diverse :-) My shifts can be quite unpredictable; it can work for or against you in that regard. And I’ve never believed in the idea of the customer “always being right”. There’s just so many things they say that defy this claim. And they’re not a priority – they’re human like you and I; I’m not going out of my way if there are bigger issues at hand. I’ll help people, but only if they’re on my level, not being pretentio about their needs. I was looking at the iTunes download for Frozen. That seems to be a lot of extra content. I’m tempted… My DVD has nothing on it apart from some promotions and ‘Get a Horse’… <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">  <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;line-height:16.5pt;">Work and home are separate. Combining them like that would be nothing but extreme Capitalism, making sure that the workers satisfy the corporations in the best possible way. It’s nice to be on the same level as a teacher, but not one in the way that you are describing, where they make assumptions.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">  <span style="line-height:16.5pt;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">I was also looking at the books on iTunes. The previews of some of them made it look like there wasn’t much to add. Plus, there was one about Elsa and Anna getting trapped in an underground network of tunnels beneath the castle, and encountering ghosts. Really? How do we treat that? I may purchase them, although I want to do it in a way where I can send them to you. I’m interested in the children’s novel version of the film. I want to see what was omitted for simplicity, and see if there could ever be potential for a true novel. The way I see it is as a child, one hears words, but does not always comprehend their meaning. I don’t think little girls shouting out Let It Go truly know how deep those words are with meaning, nor can they appreciate the amount of work that went into such a film. I just look at Elsa’s hair, for example, and how her fringe moves in the wind at the start of Let It Go. Do they see that and appreciate it? I certainly didn't pay that much attention to detail at that age. I just give thanks to the passion and drive of the creators, and how they wanted to make a truly brilliant film. Oh, and like the diaphragm business they show you in the Story of Frozen; they just went to so much effort :-) I wanted more contents in that show, definitely. <span style="line-height:16.5pt;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">Santino Fontana does have an impressive vocal range. It’s just a shame that he did not use it for good ;-) I’m trying to think which villain has the best signing voice out of all of the Disney films. I think Elsa wins for the protagonists, although I appreciate that there are others. Anna is amazing when you listen to her too. <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">  <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;line-height:16.5pt;">OK, so, at this party I was talking about ‘Disney’, and how  Frozen<span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;line-height:16.5pt;"> challenged a lot of stereotypes. The chap I was talking to then said about the way the characters looked, and how that was not challenged. It is true that they (especially Anna and Elsa, and Hans…) are what one might call ‘perfect’ aesthetically speaking – I’m not sure what you would classify as an ‘optimum’ figure, but their physiques are what the norm consider it to be. When you can have characters look like this, why wouldn’t you? I think it was the Young Turks discussing this, but you’re not going to have a larger lady with a less appealing complexion, even if they did have the same personality as Elsa. I agree that this stereotype was not challenged, but I don’t see why it should be. Although Elsa does that swanky walk – Why wouldn’t she? She’s revelling in her new found freedom – looks are not played upon in this film, and imposed upon the viewers. They never discuss looks in a way which makes young people say, ‘I want to look exactly like her’. Obviously you get those who think Disney is full of subliminal messaging to manipulate your kids, and that Disney was a Freemason (obviously), but that just isn’t the case. There was a time in human history where big women were more appealing, but as perceptions change, so does what is considered favourable. Plus this is a western film; slim white people would be the most likely option. I wouldn’t say that their figures are impossible. It’s true that it is not something you see in a majority, but what do you see in a majority? The majority isn’t young women of Royal blood, or men for that matter.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;line-height:16.5pt;">EDIT: I also have no clue why people go into so much effort with forcing a relationship between Jack Frost and Elsa... Why? I may ask one of them...