Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5189655-20150205205704/@comment-24199126-20150208184953

I respect whatever decision the community ultimately comes up with; however, I'm going to have to oppose adding OUAT content to this Wiki. Everyone here seems to agree that OUAT is not canon, so I won't get into that much, but that pretty much is why it shouldn't be on this wiki. Our focus is on the film. I've seen some posts from Varg about how we can't be certain that the Frozen book contents are canon. It's a fair point, but one I take issue with.

For one thing, OUAT has been CONFIRMED to take place in a different timeline, so it can be stylized as an adaptation. However, calling the books an "alternate continuity" is speculative because there have been no statements to verify this. I will concede that calling the books canon is similarly speculative, but this is where we can exercise some common sense.

Frozen is owned by Walt Disney Animation Studios (WDAS). Since they own the franchise, they have the creative power to do what they wish with it. Seeing as WDAS distributes the books (thus reviewed their contents), they have to be taken as canon. The books may or may not align with Jennifer Lee's vision of future events, but it's out of her hands since WDAS owns Frozen.

Now I'm expecting a "but Disney owns ABC, which owns OUAT". Well first of all, this does nothing to account for the fact OUAT is confirmed to be non-canon. And yeah, DISNEY owns OUAT, but Disney =/= Walt Disney Animation Studios. Disney is the parent company of both WDAS and ABC, but the two assets are still distinct entities. Thus, comparing the Frozen books to the Frozen arc of OUAT is comparing apples to oranges.

I still think there's also the problem of delving into OUAT because of how the Frozen arc occurs in its fourth season, meaning the information would be out of context. I had trouble understanding OUAT because I jumped in just for Frozen, and I do not wish to see that experience repeated in text form on the wiki. Sure, we might be able to write around some inconsistencies, but in the end, a tangled mess is unavoidable. For instance, both Ingrid and Rumple do quite a bit in the fourth season to oppose our Frozen pals. But since they have nothing to do with Frozen, adding pages for them isn't really an option. Yet, if we don't include their information, a lot of the OUAT information is going to be incomprehensibly incomplete.

But don't get me wrong, I AM considering the possibility of ending up adding OUAT content. If we do end up adding OUAT content, it definitely should not be added to the character pages. OUAT would need separate pages for its Frozen characters. OUAT Elsa has nothing to do with Frozen Elsa, so there's no reason so take the Wikipedia/Disney Wiki route and mash their histories into a convoluted mess.

Current consensus seems to be:

For OUAT on the wiki: Varg2000, ResonX, Jjuser (3)

Somewhat opposed to the idea: Humprhy02 (1)

Against OUAT on the wiki: CreationBeThe World23, Dragonboy6491 (2)

Please correct me if I am wrong.