Thread:Dragonboy6491/@comment-25389622-20140907210809/@comment-25389622-20141115051100

We'll never get sick of  Frozen :-) I'll let you know if I have any more bright ideas but the picture is the only one right now... And with it all not so long away I'm not sure that there's much time for huge changes. Maybe we could do some community things, although I think that we should focus on the rewrite. What better way to celebrate it? I thought that maybe we could have a page where people can add their favourite moments from the film. Have you got ten+ years xD



I’ll look at User boxes, but I think I’ll need a hand. I’ll worry about it more when we have the major pages sorted. 

 (Don't ask why it has intended like that... My computer works in mysterious ways I guess) 

Oh, you’re welcome for the idea ;-) I can’t have sympathy for anyone who takes any form of ‘substance’. My Granddad got throat cancer from smoking his whole life; he didn’t die of that but it wasn’t like it wasn’t going to happen, and when it happens to someone you love you don’t really know what to say. If a friend rang me like that then I’d probably state my lack of sympathy, ask if they were dying, and when they say no I would hang up. Oh, no, don’t put the name of the substances here: we’d get banned xD I do forget that this conversation is public, although I don’t think that anyone has the time to keep up with the action here. Here’s the article: 

<span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/may/13/frozen-mania-elsa-anna-olaf-disney-emo-princess-let-it-go <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:12pt0cm12pt36pt;text-indent:-36pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">(One thing about this: I hate how Elsa is sometimes referred to as "emo". She's not... Just because she is in a situation that causes, sadness, distress, fear, whatever, it does not make her emo. I'm interested to hear what you have to say about the term and whether it applies to Elsa.)

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt;text-indent:-36pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> <span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;">I ended up reading the whole thing in the end; it was OK - endorsed Frozen that was for sure :-) I forgot that Big Hero 6 has come out now. It looks good and I want to see it. I think that it will be good, but in a completely different way to Frozen. That’s stupid when people say that it’s better just because of the rating. I don’t know why people feel inclined to rate something like Frozen down just because it has done well - ratings are conjured up by biased humans who are more likely doing it for personal gain. Why can’t they let a good thing be? I can’t stand critics, that being one of my main reasons. It just goes to show that their views have no more weight than ours, and that they can be as wrong as us. I also view them with contempt because they are basically being paid to take apart something beautiful, the moment it comes out, with no idea how hard people have worked on it. I’m not saying that makes something immune from criticism, but when it comes to something like Frozen, they are just wrong. I told my friend that today after a brief discussion arose after it came on the radio. He said that he didn’t understand all the hype (why would he...), called it pretty ‘”c**p”, and so instead of getting into a huge debate I just said, ‘no, no you’re just wrong’. I don’t want to sit there and pour my heart out over something I love when they don’t even take it seriously. He’s annoying because he goes from saying it’s good one minute, to saying it’s bad the next. So I don’t much care for his opinion on the matter, especially seeing as he never backs it up. <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt;text-indent:-36pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> His face in that moment is actually quite disturbing, just for what it implies. No doubt that he could have felled her in one blow, but she wouldn’t die straight away all the same; saying that, I'm not too sure on the logistics when it comes to dying in a such a way - I don't want to think about it, especially when it comes to Elsa. Ah, no point thinking about the logistics to something that didn’t happen. I used to wonder what if he did take her out, or what if Anna didn’t thaw out, although with the act of true love sealed then that isn’t a problem. Now I just don’t think about it too much because there’s not much point getting bogged down by such things. That’s an interesting perspective of him, especially that idea of himself feeling that he was in a form of his own isolation as a child and never got recognition. I still hate him for what he was going to do - what he nearly did, what he was going to get away with - and the lengths he went to to try and do it. But I guess that’s what makes him a good villain. The suddenness of him revealing himself and the short time he went from seeming like the perfect suitor to an almost murderer just adds to the shock of his abhorrent nature. Although he really made use if such a situation for his own gain.<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">The internet is a bummer like that. I love it for the way it connects us; how else would have I have met you? And I love the knowledge base it is capable of creating. But, like you say, there are just parts that have no place anywhere, and simply should not exist - wrong. Maybe the internet just provides a place for the bad parts of society to flourish without a feeling of disgust from society. That’s why you have these groups; they do it out of the way from everyone else, sharing a common interest. If you can’t have one without the other, then maybe the internet just shouldn’t exist. I don’t think that, but even if I did, nothing would stop it now. I would say about censorship, but when it comes to things that aren’t illegal but may just seem outside of what is ‘OK’, then it’s a grey area. Like the whole making of such cartoons. Can you really say to people to not do it, and if they do they will face bitter consequences? Perhaps not, but when a person takes part in stuff like that, I seriously question their morals, and wouldn’t want anything to do with them in society. Keep away from my kids, basically. <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">I have always said that if I were to be part of a religion, it would be Buddhism. To be honest I think that I would most closely relate to Albert Einstein’s belief in Pantheism, and the idea of Spinozism. You have Frozen to thank for making me a slightly more subjective person :-) <span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;">  I wouldn’t say that you should feel bad for not pursuing a study of Buddhism, or any religion for that matter. Look at its core beliefs maybe, but take it with a pinch of salt, and if needs be apply some of the beliefs to your own situation. Christians do my nut in, they really do. That’s why I got so wound up over that analysis of Let It Go and this whole idea that Elsa was embracing “sin”. It sickens me that someone would think in such a way over such a song or piece of work. I won’t go into it now, but I would love to analyse Let It Go myself. We said maybe having that sort of thing for each of the song pages. We’ll see. I’m not going to judge you or anyone because you eat meat. I do what I do because that is how I feel. I’m not saying I go the right way about it, but I think that it’s better if we as a civilisation move towards not eating as much meat. I watched a programme called Horizon – it’s a series that’s always going about different issues mainly concerned with science and research and it’s brilliant. It was looking at the environmental implications in one episode and what they will be as the population grows and grows. I do eat fish, but I’m starting to question that as well… It’s just not going to work; having this system in place and having countries continue to grow on the scale that they are. I get where you’re coming from though. Anyone who I’ve spoken to says that it’s too good to give up. I think in the end we have to stop thinking on an individual basis and think of humanity as a collective, and the planet as a living entity that can be hurt and damaged. We need to get past our own wants and desires when it comes to these issues, and if sacrifices need to be made for the greater good without removing a certain standard of quality of life, then so be it. Although they may not taste as good, there are alternatives to meat. Have you heard of Quorn? I love it. It’s got all the stuff meat has in it and more, minus the risk of heart disease from saturated fat. <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> Probably very pessimistic of me to speak in such a way, but I do think that it would just cancel out…<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> That would be such a good idea to have commentary. I would love to see more of the journey to the making of such an epic film. You were saying before about the script, and how the quest lies in the journey. I agree, but you’ve got to admit that this was one destination that paralleled in greatness to the journey. Although, if anything, the journey is still ongoing, with the end no where near in sight. As I’ve said before: long live Frozen!<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> You certainly do ;-) I would get the deluxe, but with already having half of the album it’s a bit of a bummer to pay for the same stuff again. I’ll find a way around it… New Scientist is brilliant. I was hyped last week with their coverage on this comet business. It’s times like this that I want to enter that industry, and aid in its development. Even if I was the most distinguished engineer in the world though, Frozen would still be at the core of my heart ^^<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> <span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;">I’ll certainly do that. But yeah, we’ll get the main pages out of the way first. I have to say it is kind of weird reading a book written in such a way… Not to worry though; it’s Frozen :-)<span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;">  So have you read The Art of Frozen? <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> Quite nice? It’s amazing! Even when all tied up it’s still beautiful, but when it’s down it’s to die for. It’s such a statement of herself and who she really is. Speaking of Rapunzel, is it just me or have they made her into a ‘cartoon-style’ like the previous princesses? You’ll see what I mean form the Christmas calendars if anything else. I’ll be damned if they do that to Elsa and Anna. That’s interesting about the Duke. Still not canon though? Please tell me he’s not trying to kill Elsa… He’s has no reason to now. He didn’t before; it was only his own unfounded fear and lack of understanding of the situation that drove him to try and do it before.<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;"> *Shudders* I don’t want to even think about fan-fiction like that. I hold fan-fiction of little worth as it is – due to it not building on the story from a canon perspective, although it may be creative in its own right – but that is just way to far. It may not be as irrational as Helsa or Jelsa, but just the concept is far more depraved. No, I’m not thinking about it… I'll just imagine them hugging and saying how much they love each other in a sisterly way. Ah, that’s better.<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1ptnonewindowtext;padding:0cm;">They are pretty good. Maybe we could use it for Christmas somehow; beats sticking Christmas hats on the characters anyway. I’m not saying that it will damage a film like Frozen if you saw the trailer first. Let me read around it a bit and get back to you :-)