Thread:Dragonboy6491/@comment-25389622-20140907210809/@comment-25389622-20140921224706

Thank you for your kind words and for your support on the Elsa's Dress page :-)

It would be nice to develop a section on clothing and boost activity.

The thing I saw about Mayim Bialik was an article. She had originally written a blog but this was just showing extracts. I wouldn't read the actual thing because it would probably just annoy you (it would annoy me xD). The only thing that brought my heart rate down was the comments that people had posted. Many were well thought out and were not abusive, which was nice :-) It's silly to get all hyped up on one person's opinions, especially if their actions don't have an effect on you in that regard. She was going against what the majority say, and the majority hold positive views, so there's no damage to  Frozen's  reputation there. We've discussed haters before anyway. I could send you the article I saw if you like. I left cool and calm again. The only reason I did was because I didn't even think about the honest trailer linked on the bottom of the page. I don’t know if you've heard of honest trailers but as with Cinemasins, I'd give them a wide birth.



All I was going to say about the proportionalities of the characters is that they are done in that way for a reason. One is because it is animation and so it allows people to remove the constraints of reality from a piece of work, changing what people look like and emphasizing characteristics and personalities of those characters through features, posture, build, etc. That is just one form of the freedom that you have. I think it adds to the magic and enchantment of something, especially with  Frozen , that the characters aren't 'ordinary' looking. The side profile of Elsa and Anna isn't what a real person looks like form that view, but there's nothing wrong with that because it is animation. They don't look like real people anyway. They look like people, just not people walking down the steet. But it doesn't matter because it is not supposed to be this way. Plus their features grotesque or ugly. This brings me on to my second point as to why animators 'exaggerate' features and motions. I think that the main reason is so that we find the characters more appealing; the opposite of grotesque and ugly. This isn't just in the female characters either, as the men, in their own ways, are also 'appealing' due to emphasized or exaggerated features. I don't know if you've heard of  Vsauce  on Youtube, but if you like watch his two videos on why we find things cute and creepy, and you’ll get a better understanding of what I'm trying to say. There's a point (when a graph is plotted with likeness on the x-axis and familiarity on the y-axis) where features are both familiar and also likable. Here's two good representations of what I'm trying to say:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Mori_Uncanny_Valley.svg/450px-Mori_Uncanny_Valley.svg.png

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/8c/cd/uncanny_graph_blog.jpg?itok=aWATpiZK

I was discussing with my brother that say if you saw someone with Elsa's proportionalities walking down the street, would you be scared or repulsed in some way? I think not. Yes, it would look different relative to a real person's features, but it wouldn't look repulsive. I know it is difficult to imagine because there isn't an example to compare this hypothetical situation to in real life. Another thing is that if you look at the crowds or the choir in the film, they don't seem bizarre as everyone else around them also shares the same traits. There is a lot of variation in facial complex and stature. You will get an idea from the second graph on where the characters in  Frozen  fall on the line. I'm not sure what your interpretation of what Mayim Bialik says, but I've got an idea from your previous comment.



<p style="margin:0cm0cm0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">The other main point about it being like any other film where the Princess meets the Prince is also wrong because although Disney follows their historical convention to start with, it then defies it, with even having the characters challenging Anna on the whole 'true love' idea. But despite this, Anna still has reason to want this love. Because she has been isolated and cut off for so long she is desperate for human interaction and so has idealised a perfect 'way to fall in love' scenario in her head. By meeting the tall handsome prince-stranger and then falling in love right away; it being justifiable in her mind because it is 'true' love.

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<p style="margin:0cm0cm0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">Went off one there I know but I was just trying setting out my points clearly. The whole proportionality thing has been bouncing through my mind for a while now. Not just with Frozen but with other animation films too. Well, there’s my argument to support it. To sum it up there is a point on the graph where characters like in Frozen fit, and this area is where they are considered the most likable but also the most familiar.

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<p style="margin:0cm0cm0.0001pt;line-height:16.5pt;"><span style="line-height:16.5pt;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;">By the way I bought the new issue of New Scientist today. I buy it when the cover stories interest me. The one this week is titled “Imagination: Why we spend so much time exploring realities that don’t exist”. This is basically what we were saying a while back with regards to the human mind and the urge we have to create external realities. I can give you a break-down of what it is saying when I’ve read it if you like. That is if you still want to listen to me get all deep into issues like this. ;-) I’ll listen to you as well; I like our conversations being two-way :-)