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  • THIS WIKI EXISTS

    MY LIFE HAS BEEN FUFILLED

    WHO’S THE FOUNDER?

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  • Can you please comment the code to split segments with known purpose using obvious separators?

    Something like this:

    // START Randomize wiki logo
    
    
    // END Randomize wiki logo
    

    Also at the top of each file, there should be a list of these named blocks of code so that you can search for them and quickly get to their start and end. This of course also means that that exact wording should not appear anywhere else in the code as part of a comment (looking at "Different colors for admins").

    I think that it would really avoid future difficulties, especially regarding the infobox styling where the end is not obvious at all other than that it's the last script, which is also what brought me to this problem.

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    • You will have to be more specific about the navigation bar, I don't really know what you mean. Is there something we can add to make up for that?

      Tomas9970 wrote:

      I don't think I will ever forget about this.
      https://frozen.fandom.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AWikia.css&diff=45571&oldid=45570

      What is there to remember about it?

      I don't think so; just do them when justified, as necessary.

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    • I was not talking about a navigation bar but something at the top of the file that describes it's content and organisation.

      Something like this.

      /* Code in this CSS file is split into independent blocks based on it's functionality. Start and end of each block is labeled with START and END tags followed by the name of the block.
      
      Block names:
      User Profile Styling
      Different colors for admins
      Styling of portable infoboxes
      */
      

      I was trying to point out the time when the edit was made. I just found it really interesting. Maybe I was feeling bad about it at that time because that was technically my stuff being done. Just don't know the reason anymore.

      Also I think that "Different colors for admins" should be a single block with this prefix removed from everything in it as we know the purpose of that code quite well (thanks to excellent comments).

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  • I think Ahtohallan is alive. I mean it is refeered to as "her". According to the Lullaby it "sings to those who'll hear." and it "sang" to Elsa using a memory of her mother. So it must have selected it for Elsa. Then in Ahtohallan it edited some "footage" to tell Elsa "You are found."

    Also, In Iduna's notes on the scroll Elsa and Anna find she describes Ahtohallan as Magic's source/Elsa's source. ANd since Agnar said the spirits came from a magic "as old as the glaciers" that means Ahtohallan created the spirits (including Elsa)

    Can that be added to Trivia on the page.?



    Why or why not? just curious? 

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    • Hi there

      Right. Ships may also be referred to using female pronouns, and obviously they are not alive. Same goes for "Mother Nature" - although that can be considered more "alive" than a ship. So perhaps it is alive in the same way that Mother Nature is, but we do not know this for sure.

      Yes, the memory of her mother was selected by Ahtohallan to show to Elsa. Though I wouldn't say that the memory has been changed in any meaningful way. Iduna repeats the line to Elsa from the lullaby. The next line obviously isn't said by her, but the two are singing and so it is best not to take the scene too literally - the line serves more as exposition within the song.

      I understand that as Ahtohallan being the source of Elsa's magic. It does not have to be alive for this to be the case. But then again the magic is so mysterious that it may be a bit premature to posit this. When does Agnarr say about glaciers? Besides that, just because the spirits are "as old as glaciers" does not mean that they were created by Ahtohallan itself. It may just mean that they came into existence at around the same time.

      To answer the rest of your questions: No, it cannot be added to the trivia section, because it is far too conjectural. Review what you have said to see what I mean. It's fair enough on your part to take these facts and try and draw conclusions from them, but for something to be added to a page, the fact must be definitive, in that it happened and we may cite a source. So to say in the trivia, "Ahtohallan is considered alive", one must have a credible source to back this up. Although at that point I think it would be worth integrating into the main page.

      Thank you for taking the time to ask.

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  • Hello

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  • This user created a page named "Olav" which has nothing to do with Frozen. I can't do much about him other than marking the page and file for deletion, which is what I did. He also added "Olav" as Elsa's ally but I undid that.

    As this is really not much, I'll just try to talk to him and give a warning but please remove the page and it's picture.

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    • Got it. I thought that it would feel weird if I gave him a warning but you decided to ban him instead.

      Rollback doesn't entitle me, it just gives me capabilities.

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    • Well if you needed any further consolation, other than being a responsible member, you always have the fact that you are a responsible member with some capabilities bestowed upon you ^^

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  • This is supposed to be a thread for handling difficulties regarding the implementation of styling changes. It's so that the other thread doesn't get cluttered.

    I see that you only have the second half of the wiki logo styling. It's done in a way that either one or the other part is used based on the screen width to avoid styling errors.

    You can look into my personal CSS for reference but be warned that there are a few more thing. Logo styling is at the very bottom.
    https://frozen.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tomas9970/common.css

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  • I have added things to trivia in the past, so I just wanted to run this information by you before I decide to "publish it" in the trivia on Anna's page. Maybe include a "pre-birth" section saying that Nature appointed her half the fifth spirit with Elsa?

    In the Frozen 2 Podcast Jennifer Lee says that the relationship between Anna and Elsa make them BOTH the fifth spirit. So I guess that while Elsa is the "official" fifth spirit it is her relationship to Anna that connects the forest and Arendelle.

    Having said that, and based on Elsa's statement about their mother having two daughters (Anna was also born on the summer solctice as Elsa was born on the Winter which would indicate significance), I belive that "nature" intended for both sisters to be born, Elsa was given her powers to quell the spirits and discover the truth in Ahtohallan, Anna to be queen afterwards. Thats also why Elsa froze in Ahtohallan and Anna freed the forest (otherwise if Elsa was the full fifth spirit then she would have just done it all herself). What do you think?

    https://abcaudio.com/podcasts/inside-frozen-2/

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    • Thanks. I'm glad we have finally reached an agreement.

      I suggest you to read through the wiki policy as suggested above if you haven't already as that could avoid quite a few situations that happened.

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    • Yeah, you seem to get it. I will just say this (sorry for being late back into to the discussion!).

      Another example which seems pertinent here is about whether the prologue of the second film is on the same night as the accident. We cannot definitively say it was, so we do not explicitly include such information in articles. The only evidence we have for this also comes from the podcast with Jennifer Lee. It is important to remember that she may be a director and story writer for the films, but that does not automatically mean that what she says is canon. She is able to speculate or prefer to think a certain way about things along with the rest of us.

      The only other thing that troubles me is your corollary that they are both the Fifth Spirit, leading on from them being “two sides of a bridge”. These are more Elsa’s words to Anna than anything else, the affirmation to her sister that they will continue doing things together; and while she is correct, this does not mean that Anna also shares the title.

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  • I want you to know that a user named Dfrenzel deleted all Frozen II related information from the Anna's and Elsa's page.

    As this is not a "junk account" like in most other cases, I suggest banning him for 2 weeks.
    https://frozen.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Editcount?username=Dfrenzel

    His appeal makes zero sense to me so I appolgise if I've missed anything in it.

    And I thought I've seen everything :).

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  • That guy recetly repyling to Dragonboy reminded me that this si quite important for new users trying to contact an administrator.

    You changed status of Dragonboy and Heimr on the administrators page to show that they are inactive and that people shouldn't contact them but I think that you should do the same in other places as well.

    Main header still shows Dragonboy and Heimr as administrators. Because this part of UI should be used by people looking to contact one, I think that it should only show you.

    Frozen_Wiki:Bureaucrats page still shows Heimr as an active Beraucrat. I think that this should be fixed.

    Special:Community also shows Heimr as an active administrator ready to answer questions. This should be fixed as well.

    There are also quite a few places where your name doesn't have a different color but that's doesn't really matter.

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    • Whoops, it seems were having two slightly different conversations...

      I was under the impression what you were working on (and added) includes what I removed. If it does not, I can add some lines back in. Then again if the upside is that you have more freedom to work now then I will leave it as is.

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    • Got it.

      Well, I don't want to get onto it just yet so please bring it back into a state that works.

      There are other places that could use attention at the moment and where the result is not just an under the hood change.

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  • I have no idea how to change my profile picture, it isn't working.

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    • Just hover over the profile picture on your profile page and an "edit avatar" button will pop up. You can then upload a picture or pick from the default ones.

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