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  • HI my name is Katrina Marie Terry I just started this program a couple months ago.Hope U reply me soon.:) :) :)  

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  • Hello Wolf,

    I saw both of your comments regarding Hans and in the interests of avoiding the need to post twice (and since both messages were essentially the same), I will simply reply once on your wall.

    You state that it's speculated Hans was neglected by his brothers; this is plain wrong, as Jennifer Lee has confirmed it. As an encyclopedia, we state facts; if there's a point of contention, there will be a source to verify the claim, which is what was done for the statement about Hans being neglected.

    As such, nothing short of Jennifer Lee officially retracting her statement will support your claims that Hans was not neglected. As with all facts, it is important you SHOW your claims are true, not simply TELL, which you have been doing this entire time. I have shown my statements are correct with a reference from the director; all you have done is continue to reiterate statements about your interpretation of the film.

    I have no problems engaging in a discussion about content; in fact, I welcome it. However, I have no interest simply having my comments completely ignored because you are adamant in your belief that Hans was born evil. If you will not try to do this in a more constructive manner, we have nothing more to discuss.

    Dragonboy6491

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    • You sound kinda mad.

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    • That doesn't really refute my whole argument... You didn't need to quote the whole thing like that. I didn't mean that they all neglected him to such a degree as the three did... "the three brothers ignoring him like that was just the worst example that Hans could give. There would be other degrees of severity towards neglecting Hans, but not all as severe as this".

      Ah, I think we are done here. 

      I didn't mean to say, "that the other three got on with him", I meant nine.

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  • Apparently I got blocked on terms of "harassment" for calling TRIMC 95 "stupid" but TRIMC 95 didn't get blocked for insulting sociopaths.

    I understand I went too far by calling TRIMC stupid, but TRIMC completely insulted an entire group of people with his comments about sociopaths, and should have been blocked as well.

    I was able to leave a message for the admin who blocked me on another wiki, but I was wondering if you could please leave him a message as well?

    Here is his page: http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:GrayWolf2

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    • Hello PyroGothNerd,

      I understand that you might be a little peeved, but I'm going to ask that you not be so inflammatory with your language. TRIMC 95 may not frequent this Wiki, but on the off-chance he does, I do not want an antagonistic situation erupting.

      Regarding your block, I'd suggest contacting Graywolf2 or another Disney Wiki Admin on Community Central to appeal your block. Best of luck :)

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    • I have. Trust me, I wouldn't be calling it crap if he hadn't said anything that would be offensive to sociopaths.

      Thank You for wishing me luck.

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    • He read my lengthy message and unblocked me.

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  • Hey Wolf! Thanks for adding to Olaf's relationships. I couldn't help but read your edit summary, and you don't need to feel like your edits are "not the best" because every bit counts :). Besides, that's why we have a community, to help expand on old edits ^^

    Now, in the interests of keeping Hans' relationships page from getting cluttered over our little debate, I've decided to continue it here. We knew nothing of Hans' past aside from the fact that three brothers pretended he was invisible for two years, so to say he had an average childhood would be speculative, and we report facts ONLY. But with Jennifer Lee's statement that he was raised without love, we KNOW Hans was neglected and that the case of the three brothers ignoring him was just one of many such instances. You can't take observations of events in the film and attempt to contrast it with a statement from the director unless it's blatantly wrong. However, Jennifer Lee's statement makes sense logically, as it corroborates Hans account of that event and indicates it was just one of many cases of neglect.

    On another note, I'd like to point out that being ignored for two years is certainly not a case of "healthy" sibling rivalry. I said this as much earlier; I might pretend my siblings are invisible for two HOURS and treat it as if it were a joke. But two YEARS is a substantial amount of time and there's no way you can twist it in a manner that suggests otherwise.

    Dragonboy

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    • Your very welcome for the edit on the Olaf page. Happy to help. I also plane to edit more on the relationship pages and maby make a few relationship pages myself. I personaly like this wiki, It talks about my favorit movie.

      Also about the Hans thing, It's just that "3 of them pretanded I was invisabel.. Literaly.. For 2 years" Just dous't sound to me like child naglact. Also he said in a non very serious jokeing way so it seems to me like they did truly act like he was't their, sounds to me like thay did't pay him very much attantion. Also only 2 of them did that he did't say all 12.

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    • Glad to hear you'll be editing more :). Never hesitate to ask for assistance if you need it ^^

      And I know what Hans said in the film; however, Jennifer Lee has stated that Hans was raised without love, indicating that the event in which three brothers ignored him wasn't the only time it happened. It was an example of the neglect he faced. You cannot keep trying to insist Hans was not neglected when the director of the film has stated otherwise.

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    • But whait why did he say They all naglacted him then?

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    • Hans didn't tell us for plot timing reasons. The film makers didn't go too into Hans' back story because it wasn't needed. The focus was on Anna and Elsa.

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  • Hello Wolf, thanks for your edit to the Kristoff's relationships page. Your edit is appreciated but I'd like to point out something that I also pointed out to Yesterday once more. Do not simply copy-paste content from Anna or Elsa's page about their relationship with Kristoff and try to pass it off as information about Kristoff's relationship to the two. These relationships need to be written from the perspective of the character of the article. In other words, though Anna and Kristoff love each other, the way their relationship developed has nuances that resulted in an experience that was different for each of them. By copy-pasting Anna's relationship with Kristoff, you are taking her perspective and shoving it onto a page about Kristoff.

    On another note, I've noticed a lot of your edits are copy-pasting. It's not only a problem when you take information from another Wiki, it's also a problem if you take content from this Wiki and have it on multiple pages. If the information on Kristoff's relationship with Anna is the same as on Anna's relationship page, then why have even have a whole page for Kristoff? Also, the information will mean so much more if you actually sit down and try to phrase it yourself. As of this message, I have rolled back your edits.

    If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask me.


    Best,

    Dragonboy

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  • Hello Wolf, thanks for your edit to the Anna article :)

    I'm going to ask that you do not replace information in the Infoboxes. The current Infobox is from DisneyWiki and I think it has one too many parameters, which is why I intentionally removed some points. Yes, an Infobox should summarize a character but it doesn't need to specify the character's goals and fate ... that's best left to the article. That being said, until I can find a way to code a new Infobox, we need to leave some of the parts blank. It's just way too excessive.

    Thanks for your cooperation.

    --Dragonboy

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  • Hey Wolf! Welcome back to editing :)

    I'd just like to let you know, it won't be necessary to link relationships as you've been doing. If a character has significant interactions in the film, they'll have their own page dedicated to all of the interactions they've had with other characters. We've decided that the past procedure of making separate pages for all relationships was rather sloppy and that it'd be better to condense all the information into a single page. Note that I'm not chastising you, just letting you know about updates on Wiki procedure.

    If you want more information on what we've changed, please refer to the Manual of Style or this thread. Thanks for your cooperation and happy editing ^^

    --Dragonboy

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    • Because they weren't written up to standard; there was poor tense usage, too many speculatory remarks, and the pages contained too much subjectivity for something classed as "encyclopedic content". Rather than fixing them up, I thought it'd be best to start anew.

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    • Ok.

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  • Just because I've gone off editing for some time, doesn't give you the liberty to repeat what you've done long ago. I already warned you about adding categories such as "animals", yet you mass edit the pages without persmission on editing any further. You're out for two weeks, because this falls under the same category I've been precautious about all this time. 

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    • Sorry I forgot all about that mistake. Look I found that catagory and I figurd that their were animals in the movie so why not. I was just trying to mack a usfull contribute. You did't have to block me for 2 weeks you could have just said why it was so bad.

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    • Actually, I did tell you about this countless times, yet you still ignore me. I suggest you get your facts straight, since you always had spelling mistakes that we had to correct, and you must also know that not all of your contributions are appreciated if you're continuously adding in your two cents like this, and not really learning from your mistakes. Wait the ban out and don't make this worsen for yourself. What's done is done, for I've given you enough chances. Making me outstretch my limits is not in my control, since I usually let you off with a warning, however if you ever read the guidelines, it specifically stated that admins had to warn a user approximately 3 times before blocking them. Although you didn't do this on purpose, it's finished.

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  • Hi, as I've said before and I'm gonna say it again; please don't edit what you might not know. If you're unaware why I had to revert your edit, it was because that was a possibility it was copied and pasted onto the Olaf and Marshmallow Relationship page from Olaf or Marshmallow's initial character pages. Still, despite your use of elite vocabulary, there were common spelling errors, and please, do not type something up and not preview/spell-check it first. This is a first warning out of three on this specific category, as I've noticed the spelling mistakes you've made coming from a long time ago. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I'm just saying that you should probably be more vigilant when it comes to editing. Carelessness is certainly not tolerated here, nor anywhere else, I'm pretty sure.

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  • Hi, Wolf. A little notification, do you mind editing a little less? If you want to edit more, please double-check, or spell-check before publishing. This saves us time and even we spell-check. Anyways, we're undergoing some new changes and we need your, and everyone's, full attention on the forums now. Do you mind voting on the newest one there, made by Dani? She's making a new one later this week and we'll see how things go.

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